March 7, 2008

Alex, can you begin to tell us a little bit about yourself and your background?

Well, my background is varied; I've done like many other people have done a lot of things. I've had accounting practices. I've owned commercial industrial businesses. Currently, what I'm trying to do is finish three books and lecturing across southern California and the western states, trying to get out information that I agreed to put out regarding the Earth dilemma of the situation that we all face here. And I apologize. I'm two years behind schedule. I was supposed to have started lecturing two years prior to this. I've really been out since October of '93. It'll be almost a year, and that's currently what I am trying to do. So a lot of my energy and focus has been going toward that.

Now you're in contact with the Andromedans. Who exactly are the Andromedans?

They're a particular race that exists in the constellation of Andromeda. They're just one of thousands that exist out there. They are the particular race that I have talked to and have had contact with and have given me and shared information with me, are human. They're white skinned to light blue skinned, anywhere from four foot tall to eight feet tall, and they are human in every way.

Now where did they originate, Alex?

All human life originated in Lyra. When Lyra fell during a war, long before one of the stars there exploded, they migrated out from Lyra during a war in order to preserve the race and they went to different parts of our galaxy. So all human life originated from Lyra, originally. Because of their environment, they will, from generation to generation, pick up physical changes depending upon the surface and the organic stuff, their planets, and so on and so forth. The different coloured race skins have to do with genetics involving the stars in which that they're exposed to. So that's basically where they came from.

So they're primary home star then is Lyra?

Yes, originally it was.

Is that currently still their home star?

No. There's no human life on Lyra.

So then where do they exist now?

In the constellation of Andromeda.

Throughout the constellation?

Yes.

They must be very plentiful then. There must be a great, vast civilization there.

Yes there is. It's an ancient, ancient race.

Have they described what their civilization is like to you?

Yes, they have.

Could you go into some of the details that struck you the most about their civilization?

Essentially, no matter where they are, they are a one-world government. Their society would be approximately forty seven hundred years more advanced than ours on a spiritual level. On a technological level they're fifty thousand years. But there's a balance between their technology and their spiritual. In other words, the technology they create is based on a spiritual necessity to evolve and not on one to defend themselves, even though it can be used for that.

Now when you say forty seven hundred years advanced spiritually...

Yes.

How do you measure spiritual advancement in years?

I don't really know. That's what they've expressed to me.

I see.

They don't even use time in their world. There's no such thing, really, but they use those numbers to accommodate us so that we can use those as a point of reference.

I see, okay. What do they call their world in their language?

They don't speak. Everything is a symbol there. The whole race is telepathic. And I want to back up just a little bit. There are twenty-eight different races there. Not all are human. Many are dimensional, plasmic, organic, that were there before the human aspect of the Andromedans themselves, or the Lyrans got there and became Andromedans.

There's a lot of life on the different dimensional levels that if we were to go to fifth density, we would be physical on fifth density even though here we're on third density, our perspective of them as being spirit. So on each of the different dimensions there is an abundance of life that is completely different than how we would perceive it because our perception is of what third density is like. Even fourth density is very different, but we will have physical form in fourth density.

Now is third density the lowest density or are there other lower?

The animal and insect kingdoms and planetary systems would be considered lower but, to be perfectly honest with you, I've not had a clear definition of that because I haven't asked. My focus really has been us and "where do we go from here?"

What is the main difference between the third density and the fourth density?

The real difference is consciousness. In fourth density you can pretty much instantly create what it is that you think. Whatever your thoughts are, you manifest almost instantaneously. So there's a major degree of responsibility in dealing with that. Also, in fourth density we become more of a group mind. In fourth density we're all telepathic. In other words, everybody can read each other's minds. Which means you have to be real. You can't have hidden agendas because people will see right through you. Also, in fourth density we all become clairvoyants. We'll be able to see energy fields, see life forms, which means that if you're hiding something it'll be seen instantaneously. They've also said that in fourth density, when we move into that, our court systems will change. There's still a positive and negative. That exists all the way to the fifth density where you'll experience, to a strong degree, the dualities in our everyday environments. What will happen is you'll have a judge and you'll have a jury who will all be clairvoyants. They will read the energy field and know who is telling the truth and who isn't. And everything will be judged based on that, will be based on energy, not on words. In fourth density, when you walk by somebody or you touch somebody's hand, you will instantly know everything about them. So again, there will be no hidden agendas. Everybody will really have to be real. And if they choose to have and continue to play out their agendas, whatever those are, then they will have the space. But, you will know, or people will know. I will know whom we're dealing with instantaneously.

Is there an economy?

No.

And what is the basis of their economy? Is it like a spiritual economy? I've heard some people describe their views of other extraterrestrial civilizations as having a spiritual economy where the amount of psychic energy you put into something is given a value. Have they expressed any of how their social systems work?

Ok, I know a little bit about that. Essentially, everybody is given exactly what it is they need to evolve. There are many different races, and each race has their own uniqueness about them based on their particular belief systems and my understanding is that everything is a belief system. As far as the Andromedan culture, children go to school, or the Andromedans, they go through a birth process just like we do. Those that are physical. They go to school for anywhere from one hundred and twenty to a hundred and fifty years. They're taught all of the major sciences and arts. They would be equivalent to PhD’s or doctorates or masters, whatever you want to call it, in all of the arts. It is at that point, once they are done with all of that education, that they choose what it is that they wish to do, where to evolve. And they can change their mind any time they want. The whole purpose is the evolution of the soul and life. They're given whatever it is that they need to do that. I'm not aware of crime or whatever, or anything along those lines. Their whole focus is on education and not distraction. If it's something that is not educational, from what I've observed, it's simply something they're not interested in. They just have it within them to constantly evolve on an educational as well as a spiritual level. And whatever they need is there for them to use. I'm not aware of them having to pay anything for it. To my knowledge it doesn't exist.

Now are art and music important to them too?

Yes, all of it is. But those things are very different than what we perceive. Art is creation to them, things that are created out of thought, out of the "Is-ness". What they call "Is-ness", the Pleiadians call creation, what we call God. Things are created just by thought, by nature. They consider art. They use extensively holographic technology. Music, their music, is of the universe, of what the music that certain planets make as they rotate around their sun, what different solar systems make as they revolve around their sun, and what whole systems - the sounds and energy that they create. To them, that's their music. And then they put things together, different constellations, different star systems. They'll put those together and overlap them to create music. It's different than what we just pull out of thin air here.

How have they expressed what their daily life is like? Is there a solar day for them, or is there night or day? What is their daily life like, or periods of life?

There is really, to my knowledge, no set schedule. I'll give you an example of what I observed aboard one of their mother ships. They don't require much sleep to my knowledge, simply because I guess they're very healed; their beings, their physical form, they're just incredibly healed. They're just in touch. There is no night and day. They don't need to experience that, although I'm sure other races have that, but the Andromedans don't. They're just constantly stretching themselves, trying to evolve and experience more and more and more all the time. They're happy people. They don't have the extremes of emotions that we express here. In fact, I've been told that virtually few races in the entire galaxy express the realm of emotions that we experience here. They're just always in a very wonderful space. They're not a civilization that really judges. They do accept things the way they are, with the exception of when those things threaten their particular lifestyle, or what they're about, their essence, and others, what other races might experience or perceive as a threat.

Alex, you said they were evolving spiritually. What do they want to evolve towards? What spiritual goals do they have?

I guess to be just the best that they are, to be completely at one with all that there is at all times. You know, there are eleven creational densities, and my understanding is that within each of the creational densities you change your physical form. Their goal as a race is to go from the densities that they experience, which are three four and five, I guess to move to five six seven and eight. Then from there eight nine and ten, and then to eleven. And now the new dimensional realm to be created, twelve. It's just to continue to evolve. Nobody knows exactly what the ultimate goal is, because the essences that they're in touch with, that are on nine ten and eleven, are continuing to evolve. And now there's a twelfth density that is being added to our universe. And they're being drawn up to experience this new density. So nobody really knows what the ultimate spiritual goal is. They themselves are still searching for what God is. They know it exists, but what it is nobody really knows, which is why they call it the is-ness. It's just a force that's there. And how we perceive it is based on how we perceive ourselves and our own belief structures, belief systems. And that's how we use the energy, to create.

Now, you mentioned that they're in contact with essences from the ninth, tenth and eleventh?

Yes.

Could you describe what they describe these beings to be like to them and what they would be like to human beings?

It's just pure consciousness. What their daily lives are like I don't know. I don't have any idea.

Have they described them at all in any sort of detail to you?

Just light. Just light.

Just light?

Just light. That's all I know.

Ok now, what abilities do the Andromedans possess that exceed those of earth humans? You've mentioned telepathy...

Well, that's an interesting question and I don't know that I necessarily like the way you put it. The abilities that they have are latent in everybody. They just haven't lived in a society that has been screwed with like we have been here. They're all telepathic, they're all clairvoyant, they're all healers because they're taught all of the sciences. They're just, they're whole. I guess that's the only way that I can put it to you is that they're completely whole. Every soul knows who they are. They know who they've been. They know what their reincarnational past has been. They as a soul have a personal agenda, which every time they incarnate they're consciously aware of. So they know where they're going. They see improvement in themselves life after life after life. We, if we hadn't been so screwed with here, would have the same abilities. We could very much be where they are. But we've been manipulated incredibly for the last fifty seven hundred years, on an intense level every day. Our real manipulation really started about fourteen thousand years ago when the Orion group started manipulating our DNA structure. So it isn't that they're better because they're not. We're just different. We're a little bit behind than they are because of our manipulations here. But the real bottom line here is: We're all Spirit. We contain a soul. That soul is a part of all that is. And that soul has been really trying to be recognized in each of us. And it hasn't been because of the material and the belief systems that we have evolving around us being earth people, about being physical, and about the real truths of our essence, of our existence, of who we are having been blinded from us, from our spiritual teachings, from the religions and us being convinced that we're something that we're not: that we're physical, that we're animal form. And we're not. We're spirit. Our spirit animates these physical forms. Period.

This transcript from the October 1994 interview by Ditrianum and EARS